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« on: December 15, 2006, 01:40:49 PM »

Have any of you seen the movie "A Clockwork Orange"?

I think it's brilliant, and it's most likely my most favorite of movies. I've also read the book as well, and it's even better than the movie. So, this thread is to discuss "A Clockwork Orange".
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2006, 01:42:04 PM »

BUt my dear friend, what would you like to discuss? 
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2006, 01:44:31 PM »

Have you seen the movie, or read the book? Did you like it? What was your favorite part? Least favorite part? Favorite character? Does the concept of Aversion Therapy disturb you?
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You asked "Do you believe in love?"
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2006, 02:34:50 PM »

The book is the best ever written. After I read it I kept using Nadsat(the language spoken by teens) to the endless irritation of my friends.

The film is amazing. One of the best ever. But it doesn't even nearly do the book justice. Partly because it ends to soon and doesn't show that Alex eventually grows out of his violent lifestyle. It did give them cooler costumes though, which are completely different from the book.

I like to watch the film to relax. There's something about extreme violence with a classical soundtrack that completely calms me down.

The book does make you think about choice. Is a good deed really a good deed if there is no other option?

Here are a couple of links that you may be interested in:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Concordance:A_Clockwork_Orange

http://www.geocities.com/malcolmtribute/aco/droogcostumes.html
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2006, 04:04:03 PM »

The book is the best I've ever written.

OMG! You wrote it? Congratulations, indeed! 
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 04:07:43 PM »

Wow, that's amazing!

We have the author in our forums!

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 05:21:30 PM »

I thought Alex eventually 'reversed' the aversion therapy, and went back to his violent ways. The thought of aversion therapy frightens me. The thought of somebody torturing me until I hate something just seem's to be a very scary thing. It's kind of sad in a way though, Clockwork Orange. All of Alex's friends betray him, and the goverment soon made Alex hate the only good thing he ever liked.....Classical Music.
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As I soared beyond the clouds
and golden voices called me home
You asked "Do you believe in love?"
and I shook my head
So, your sins unto me as I fall down
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My wings are clipped, my voice stilled,
Goodbye.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2006, 02:02:35 AM »

The book is the best I've ever written.

OMG! You wrote it? Congratulations, indeed! 

Burgess (the Author) died in 1993.  I suspect a typo.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 02:17:48 AM »

Burgess (the Author) died in 1993.

That's what he wants us to think
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2006, 07:23:26 AM »

Burgess (the Author) died in 1993.

That's what he wants us to think

Exactly! Hitler is still alive, Bigfoot is somewhere in Washington, and the CIA killed Kennedy! It all makes sense now!

I have to agree, its a very horrorshow book and movie. The sad part of the story is I bought the special 20th anniversery book or whatever and I didn't get the Nasdat glossary in the back so I had to print off these 20 pages from some website, and evreytime I read a Nasdat word, I would have to flip and flip and flip these pages and pages of words until I found it. Needless to say, A Clockwork Orange took forever to read... but it was a really good book.

Now I'm just trying to fine out how to put this emoticon into a sentence.....
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2006, 01:20:50 PM »

Yeah it was an amalgamation of 'best book ever written' and 'best book I've ever read'.

Inerestingly Burgess didn't really like the book. It was something he wrote simply to try and earn some money and didn't like the huge amount of fuss everyone made over it.

The version I had didn't have a glossary either but I just read it anyway and worked out what all the nadsat words meant. Got pretty close with most of them.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2006, 02:00:36 PM »

I think A Clockwork Orange is an excellent movie, with an excellent soundtrack and Malcolm McDowell before going B. I'm trying to find an old edition of the book, the current version is bloody expensive. It'll take time before I get my hands on that.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2006, 09:39:52 PM »

I liked it, it's a good story.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2006, 04:20:49 PM »

So what's it to be then me droogies, eh? A touch of the moloko plus, a bit of the in-out with a young devotchka, or a bit of the old ultra-violence?

The film has its moments. I don't think it stands up to the book - the stupid codpieces and the silly Benny Hill-esque music in places sort of lose it for me. Plus it was filmed in Thamesmead, a big estate in southeast London where I occasionally used to go drinking, and I recognised too many places.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2006, 08:21:53 AM »

     I read the book with the dictionary, and in the beginning I had to look up every word, but in the end I had absorbed Nadsat and little bits would pop up in my vocabulary. Took a few months for it to work it's way out of my grey space. I loved the book, and the movie is one of my favorite Kubrick films.

Here's a link to a Nadsat dictionary and translation program...

http://www.geocities.com/athens/academy/1974/nadsat.html
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