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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2010, 07:41:58 PM »

I read Dune Messiah and thought it was wretched. What I've read about the follow-ups doesn't exactly inspire confidence since I don't give two hoots about Duncan Idaho getting resurrected 8 billion times because he is boring and a twit.

Pretty much all plots are standard. As Borges said, everything is either the Odyssey or the Bible. What I liked about Dune besides the plot (Which I DID enjoy - Star Wars is sorta the same thing, and people don't seem to mind) was the comprehensive world building Frank Herbert indulged in. Mentats, fremen, the language - familiarly Middle Eastern in form, but still weirdly alien. Reading Dune Messiah, I didn't get any more of that, I didn't see any other worlds in the universe - I just got a bunch of deterministic claptrap about a blind guy walking around in the desert. Yeehaw?

But I think we can all agree that anything touched by Brian Herbert is poop

Never read the sequels, after that scifi miniseries I doubt I will. Did you read the prequel trilogy though those were pretty good.
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2010, 08:24:18 PM »

the sequels are underappreciated. especially by people who never read them

I've read them.  I just don't think I'll ever bother to pick up copies or read them again.  That said, I have an old faded hardback of Dune that I won't part with, in part it may be the feel of the actual hardback suits the story...

Never read the sequels, after that scifi miniseries I doubt I will. Did you read the prequel trilogy though those were pretty good.

Ah, sci-fi fandom.  Guaranteed to have more religious differences than real world religion or operating system wars.  I've seen a lot of online opinions of the prequels as mass market hackjobs of the original material.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer to read original material by authors who created the universe than work written or completed by other authors set in a universe whose original author has died and has no control over what is then written in there (see HHGTTG 'sequel' et al).
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2010, 02:02:34 AM »

I'm sure everyone knows but just in case Mass Effect 2 comes out tomorrow. I know I will not be on much the next few days.
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2010, 02:09:55 AM »

i read sandworms of dune and hunters of dune, mainly because there was a bigass cliffhanger at the end of chapterhouse, and i hate an unresolved cliffhanger. i might not have bothered, but the writers were actually working off of frank herbert's notes, so it was presumably at least in somewhat the ending he wanted to write for the series. to that end, it was adequate, they didn't try to immitate frank herbert's style, which i can respect, but it didn't really feel like the same series.

i probably won't bother rereading most of the sequals, but i did enjoy heretics enough that it might cross my visual cortex again at some point.


i'm currently debating if i should bother with the new hitch hiker book. i'v heard it's not bad, and addams did want to do another one before he died.
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2010, 02:10:17 AM »

I'm sure everyone knows but just in case Mass Effect 2 comes out tomorrow. I know I will not be on much the next few days.
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2010, 02:12:18 AM »

I know it's exciting, you can has sex with Tali in this one.
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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2010, 01:13:59 AM »

if anyone is interested in some awesome free cyberpunk, i cannot recommend highly enough Tales From The Afternow.

it's best to start from the beginning, but if you want some good stand alone stories, i would suggest:
Rachael's Mutt
Car Wars
The Miracle Man of Vietnam
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2010, 01:17:12 AM »

MIRACLE MAN OF VIETNAM?Huh?

Best title of all time. Thank you, I will be reading that one for sure.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2010, 02:26:06 AM »

Have you guys seen the new info for Fallout New Vegas, it looks amazing. It really makes me root for Bethesda in the lawsuit, if Interplay wins and it :palm:s up the future of Obsidian made fallout games I will go postal on Interplay If the game lives up to the previews than it proves the former Black Isle guys haven't lost their touch. Caesar's Legion FTW!
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2010, 04:11:25 PM »

Have you guys seen the new info for Fallout New Vegas, it looks amazing. It really makes me root for Bethesda in the lawsuit, if Interplay wins and it :palm:s up the future of Obsidian made fallout games I will go postal on Interplay If the game lives up to the previews than it proves the former Black Isle guys haven't lost their touch. Caesar's Legion FTW!
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 06:01:54 PM »

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ausir/Rumor:_First_New_Vegas_news_from_magazines_emerge

check out that link in the comments section you can find scans of the magazine article, if the links are no good definitely check out http://www.nma-fallout.com/ they have a few scans the vault was missing anyway.
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