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« on: January 20, 2010, 09:22:11 PM »

I think the animals we have right now are, to put it bluntly, quite boring. I personally can deal with this, but I think it could have a detrimental effect on keeping new players' interest. When venturing off into the jungle for the first time, it would be much more exciting to fight and kill a panther or a python or a giant centipede than it is a small deer, or a vampire bat instead of an ordinary bat.

With the shamanism, cannibalism and colonial-times feel of the game, I imagine Shartak to be more like Skull Island in King Kong. An evolutionary cul-de-sac of giant (excuse the word again) insects and predatory birds and lizards. I appreciate that this is just my own interpretation, but this is about more than just shaping the game to my imaginings - it doesn't have to be this, but I think something is needed to grab people's imagination so that they stick around for more than the first 175AP.

This is more an idea than a fully-formed suggestion, so chip in at any time.

EDIT: Possible animals:

Panthers/jaguars/leopards/mountain lions/lynx
Giant centipedes/tarantulas/leeches
Eagles/Vampire bats
Pythons/boas/adders
Wolves/wild dogs
Gorillas/lemurs/mandrills/baboons
Salamanders/Komodo dragons
Carnivorous plants?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 09:29:48 PM »

I will take this opportunity to point out that King Kong fights dinosaurs.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 09:31:12 PM »

I fully agree with you; especially the part about kind kong.
There should be different species of animals that are more exciting, and make more sense, being on an island detached fom the world.
It would further make sense to have ragmogak have even more stranger animals, being detached from the detached island.
Does that mean there could be dinosaurs?
The animals should also be large animals, not things like rat or parrot size.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 09:35:41 PM »

I will take this opportunity to point out that King Kong fights dinosaurs.

Why won't you leave Neil alone?

I would be fully in favour of 'thunder lizards' or something along those lines though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 10:34:08 PM »

I will take this opportunity to point out that King Kong fights dinosaurs.

We have dinosaurs. They are called shargles and they are based on velociraptor mongoliensis and deinonychus:



I'm guessing that something more spectacular is required?
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 10:45:15 PM »

Something more dangerous than shargles that roams the skull of ragmogak.
How about a dinosaur in the caves?

What are some creative animals?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 01:28:34 AM »


I literally couldn't stop laughing for 3 minutes.

-Dinosaurs
-Thunder Lizards?
-Snuffleupagus
This thread ties in to the add more water/beach creatures.  Actually, the beach has no creatures, except for turtles, which are mostly in the water.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 04:04:36 AM »

Boa constrictors!

Scorpions!

Leeches!

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 04:31:41 AM »

Boa constrictors!

Scorpions!

Leeches!


I can't believe that over the past 5 threads that talked about new animals no one actually  mentioned boa contrictors!
First of all.  Where would these things come from?
Personally, I think that there should be some dangerous animals that roam ragmogak, so people have to saty in the caves and huts to be safe.
Boa constrictor; could it attack 2 people at once?  Or too difficult to code?
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 04:33:30 AM »

I will take this opportunity to point out that King Kong fights dinosaurs.

We have dinosaurs. They are called shargles and they are based on velociraptor mongoliensis and deinonychus:



I'm guessing that something more spectacular is required?

are you sure they're not based on terror birds? Seems more likely to me.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 04:35:05 AM »

I will take this opportunity to point out that King Kong fights dinosaurs.

We have dinosaurs. They are called shargles and they are based on velociraptor mongoliensis and deinonychus:



I'm guessing that something more spectacular is required?

are you sure they're not based on terror birds? Seems more likely to me.
Based on both of course
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 05:01:23 AM »

On topic, I like the idea of a few dinosaurs, giant creepy-crawlies (centipedes, leeches).

I do feel they shouldn't just be added to the game - we have a lot of animals in the wild as it is. They should be on the rarer side and should supplant some animals we have now, percentage-wise. So, say we have a cap of 50 tigers at any given time - instead, we have 40 tigers and 10 thunder lizards.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 06:03:48 AM »

A tropical jungle has extraordinary diversity. Butterflies, creepy-crawlies, mammals, reptiles, top-of-food-chain predators... I guess we are really talking about the bigger things which are going to be a threat. There is no reason why they can't be dense in places (and you should see Unity Island at the moment - its like a zoo) in the same way the Serengeti is full of animals - and the Amazon rainforest is too (the latter potentially more relevant to Shartak).

I'm pretty ambivalent about dinosaurs as I think this steers us away from the theme of it being a harsh Caribbean colony, but more and dangerous game to hunt is in thematic order - and I think Iceman/Twist is right about the game needing more challenges.



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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 05:46:08 PM »

I think there are enough monsters in the real world jungle without having to throw in dinosaurs. Kong might not be such a bad shout though...
But dinosaurs would so throw it away from the Colony theme, as Daves said. Poisonous spiders, man-eating plants (triffids? hehe), anacondas, horses, wolves or wild dogs (since there's deer and bears I'm guessing the outsiders brought some things with them that otherwise wouldn't be in the jungle) all seem like more reasonable/flavoursome ideas than a T-Rex.

Going back to panthers/jaguars that were mentioned earlier, that seems like it'd be an easy thing to create some flavour from. Just used the template for Tigers and swap the name.
Going back to thunder lizards...weren't they in the Warcraft universe?
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