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« on: November 10, 2008, 08:03:31 AM »

I'm proposing we have a real time battle on 13 December at GMT midnight at the waterfall.

Each participant needs to sign up to a side. The obvious split might be York and Wiksik and their respective allies, but if there are other sides such as cannibals and pirates then that would be good too. There is an armistice for two days before the battle so that, in the spirit of OOC good sportsmanship, those who want to participate can do so - the more players involved the merrier. Besides, you can resolve grudges in the battle - real time is the best place for it.

As an incentive (and as part of my efforts to re-distribute wealth) the Port Breton Casino Royale (the inheritor of the acculated wealth of the Imperial Bank/Bank of Shartak/Templar Bank) is willing to pay...

Not 1000 GCs!

Not 2000 GCs!

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5000 GCS!

collectible from Casino Royale to the person who kills the most players on another side, as well as naming rights to the waterfall (Super-Ted Splash would be funny but unfortunate. Only by the grace of God did we end up with Archer's Pool last time.)

The real time battle is not mean to be a decisive battle for control of the waterfall, and I'm sure winning and losing sides would have their own spin on things, but the idea here, OOC, is for people to enjoy the action and spectacle of a real time battle in an interesting locale. Besdies, its been over a year since the last one and many new players have joined up since that time.

Tips for new real time battle participants:

1. have lots of kit - bullets, darts, FAKs/healing herbs.

2. get there a few days early - it gives you time to restore your AP from the journey.

3. honour the armistice. It would spoil the fun of those who would like to participate if they are offed early. Anyone who breaks the armistice will not be eligible for the prize.

4. do not zerg. I will have some extra characters there watching events to pcature the chatter and action, but not fighting (and so they are not zerging).  They are also there as easy kills to help you rack up your kill total (I did this in the Grand Combat and it seemed to be appreciated). I'll let you know which ones they are closer to the day.

5. use XP->AP conversion. This is not necessary, from personal experience, to win, but it certainly helps. the best way to get 1000 XP in the next two weeks is to kill, kill and kill animals especially guard dogs (you know where they are). There are other tactics to winning (teamwork is the main one) which I'm sure will come out in the discussion.

I will ask Simon to send out an e-mail alert about this battle this week, and also ask him nicely if he can deploy a roaming shaman nearby to assist those people who are killed prematurely by the over-zealous.

Questions? Comments?

[NB: edited to change date and locale, so some of the following discussion will not make much sense!!!]
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 08:11:14 AM »

A lot of players are busy with the GSUC-Raktam-Creedy/Southall Conflict at the moment... December imo would sounds like a more flexible date, once all the conflict is resolved (hopefully).

BTW, when are you getting on IRC?
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 10:35:06 AM »

Comments?

Some thoughts and ideas:

If we're looking at sides for this, we're probably talking about GSUC/Natives, Creedy/Others, Cannibals/Others, York/Others.  It might be more engaging if the battle fitted with the in-game metagaming and conflict.

Somewhere more convenient / appropriate for those battles might work better as well.  If I might suggest somewhere, why not the caves leading to Rakmogak?  They're new, people aren't familiar with them, and there are areas where groups could congregate before the battle and places that would make good battlegrounds.  Plus, fungus...  you could make the combat story be about control of the fungus.

(Also, Midway's already had a battle, and, well, Simeon may have already named the beaches (it's not like there's much else to do on Midway apart from repel the occasional dimwit who can't read signs).)

More time before the battle might help in providing more equal numbers?  After all:

The first battle was Raktam vs Pirates, and the Pirates were outnumbered, what two-to-one?

The second battle was Pirates vs Dalpok, and again, one side was outnumbered about three-to-one?  This after a delay of a week?

The third attempt at a battle didn't seem to eventuate to anything, with other events distracting from the battle etc.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 10:54:44 AM »

I will participate.  Wherever and whenever, for any side. I love it, count me in.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 11:21:49 AM »

Comments?

Some thoughts and ideas:

If we're looking at sides for this, we're probably talking about GSUC/Natives, Creedy/Others, Cannibals/Others, York/Others.  It might be more engaging if the battle fitted with the in-game metagaming and conflict.

Somewhere more convenient / appropriate for those battles might work better as well.  If I might suggest somewhere, why not the caves leading to Rakmogak?  They're new, people aren't familiar with them, and there are areas where groups could congregate before the battle and places that would make good battlegrounds.  Plus, fungus...  you could make the combat story be about control of the fungus.

(Also, Midway's already had a battle, and, well, Simeon may have already named the beaches (it's not like there's much else to do on Midway apart from repel the occasional dimwit who can't read signs).)

More time before the battle might help in providing more equal numbers?  After all:

The first battle was Raktam vs Pirates, and the Pirates were outnumbered, what two-to-one?

The second battle was Pirates vs Dalpok, and again, one side was outnumbered about three-to-one?  This after a delay of a week?

The third attempt at a battle didn't seem to eventuate to anything, with other events distracting from the battle etc.

I'm happy to delay it to mid-December sometime if it gives people more time to get ready. Pick a date- It should be a Saturday night since that seems to suit most people except our friends in continental Europe, and they don't seem to mind staying up late.

I'm not at all sure where the cave entrances are, other than Arivo Island, which is hard to access. Midway seemed to be good because its easyish to find.

We can have it at the waterfall. Its very easy to find. The only problem with that is that the waterfall is not that easy for people to hide until they're ready. With an island, and water, its easy to hide in deep or shallow water until its time to fight.

Rakmogak is an alternative, but that's also difficult to get to. And there is an indigeneous population with a home ground advantage and an appetite not to respect a temporary armistice.

Unity is quite far and has no interesting features other than being an island. Creedy/Southall is very far for people from Wiksik and Derby. The river delta is another option but it gives York a home ground advantage.

So, the tower or the waterfall seem to be the best options.





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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 03:36:18 PM »

This old Soldier will be there.

The chance of bloodshed and slaughter will not be passed up! To kick some native arses. I will be representing the GSUC. I believe we have a fair few people coming to this.

People it's a chance to bring along your clans and establish yourself as a name on shartak and win some much needed cash for weapons etc.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 04:16:01 PM »

Grunk the Pale will be there representing Chaos.

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 07:20:05 PM »

Phil's in. There doesn't seem to be much call for snide comments and abrasive gloating in a real time battle, so Twist'll sit this one out.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 07:21:52 PM »

De La Cortez will be there representing GSUC once these idiot Raktamis stop running into my machete!
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 12:22:46 AM »

OK, so how is GMT midnight Saturday 20 December / Sunday 21 December instead? I personally suspect the reason why the last two battles were one sided was because of the home ground advantages, but with the 5000GC prize money there should be more diversity in attendance this time around.

In any event, 20/21 December gives everyone 5 weeks to be ready and be there. The only potential problem I guess is people on the road in the lead-up to Christmas.

Do people prefer Midway or the waterfall? I suppose the other attraction of the waterfall is that it could be named after the winner (since "Santa's Splash) is a pretty naf name. (I can say that since I was the one who coined it.)
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 12:31:41 AM »

OK, so how is GMT midnight Saturday 20 December / Sunday 21 December instead? I personally suspect the reason why the last two battles were one sided was because of the home ground advantages, but with the 5000GC prize money there should be more diversity in attendance this time around.

In any event, 20/21 December gives everyone 5 weeks to be ready and be there. The only potential problem I guess is people on the road in the lead-up to Christmas.

Do people prefer Midway or the waterfall? I suppose the other attraction of the waterfall is that it could be named after the winner (since "Santa's Splash) is a pretty naf name. (I can say that since I was the one who coined it.)
Yeah, the lead-up to Christmas will be a definite problem. I'd suggest mid-December or possibly even early December, depending on how long it takes for the current conflict to die out.
Also, another advantage to the waterfall is that it's much closer to Santa's grotto, so we can cut the scheduling much closer to Christmas than otherwise. Using the waterfall, I'd suggest perhaps 10-15 December.



Also, AlexanderRM will most likely be joining in with the good guys here, assuming that the sides split as they would be expected. Is there any good place for us to organize and plan privately, without risk of the enemy spying on us?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 12:32:55 AM »

OK, so how is GMT midnight Saturday 20 December / Sunday 21 December instead?

If you go with that date... then the battle could be at Santa's Grotto.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 02:18:33 AM »

There will be a lot of non-combatants there. Having a pitched battle in Santa's Grotto might spoil their fun.

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Also, another advantage to the waterfall is that it's much closer to Santa's grotto, so we can cut the scheduling much closer to Christmas than otherwise. Using the waterfall, I'd suggest perhaps 10-15 December.

That's very sensible: that date will be Saturday 13th/Sunday 14th December.

OK: shall we settle on that date, at the waterfall? I will change the first post and the title if we have consensus.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 12:46:07 AM »

I'm in, but it'll take me a while to get there.  I'll probably blow at least three days' worth of AP on the way (killing, getting herbs, killing, moving halfway across the island, killing).
Will spirits be allowed?  It would be fun to get extra kills after dying.
Are heavy swords allowed?  I don't want to have to duel with this wimpy cutlass against a frigging heavy sword.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 06:05:46 AM »

Will spirits be allowed?  It would be fun to get extra kills after dying.
Are heavy swords allowed?  I don't want to have to duel with this wimpy cutlass against a frigging heavy sword.

You can go into battle with heavy sword, blunt machete, or wet pasta. There are no restrictions on weapons. Sorry, you're stuck with your wimpy cutlass against heavy swords (those who risk using them of course, since they are so prone to breakage).

Spirits are one of the tactics I mentioned above that I had in mind that would come up in discussion. A concerted spirit attack against the wounded would be interesting in this scenario.
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